Question: If this is on a 4 x 4 pallet with help I can put it on a dollie and roll it on and off my 6 x 12 enclosed trailer. If this works for you my bid is $300.00. (10/6/2009)
Response: it will be on 4" x 4" timbers, so a pallet jack will definitely move it around, trailers aren't the easiest thing to maneuver on-site however. Hoping to get someone with a rollback, but I will let you know.
Does your trailer tilt? (10/6/2009)
Response: No it does not tilt. It is a standard dual axel U-haul type trailer. It is only 12" off the ground and can be lowered by lifting back of truck or with a jack. (10/6/2009)
Response: Hey, made some slight changes to my listing, mainly to discourage the LTL people who were bugging me (I didn't realize I should have unchecked those boxes).
Do you have a good way of securing the press inside the trailer so that is does not slide around?
What would the increased cost be if we added some metal cabinets to the shipment? Nothing heavy, all thin sheet metal, some are 14"x40"x30" and some are 26" x 40" x 30". If they cant fit then it is no problem, as the press is the priority, I was just wondering how much the quote would change.
Also, can your trailer be jacked up in the rear so we can get the press on it? The dock is a low dock, but is probably 25-30" high. (10/6/2009)
Response: To add the shelves if they fit(and they probably will) just add a few dollars. The trailer does not jack up in the rear, but most business with loading docks have a ramp witch makes loading very easy. Would you like me to rebid? (10/6/2009)
Response: Thanks for the rebid, I'm waiting on the seller of the item to measure his dock, as there is no ramp, but the dock is lower than a normal dock. I think that backing the trailer onto ramps while it is still attached to the tow vehicle would probably get the tail end high enough to load. We would need a cable come-along in order to safely move it down a slope however, given the weight. (10/7/2009)
Response: I have a 4 ton come-a-long, but I don't understand what it is needed for. Can you please elaberate. (10/7/2009)
Response: Well the press is 2,800lbs, as stated in the listing. If you back the trailer up onto ramps so that the back end is the high end and the front end is the low end, you can't simply roll a pallet jack into the trailer, which is sloped, and be able to control it, gravity will win, at least it does with me. Maybe I'm overly cautious as I am not a professional mover so I try to be extra safe when I move equipment. Not trying to tell you how to do your job or anything, you are the pro and you have good feedback, I'm just thinking of equipment that might be needed to do the job safely is all. (10/7/2009)
Response: So, the plan is: back the trailer up onto a ramp so that it is high enough to roll the press in with a pallet jack. And to unload, back it up so that it is low enough to pull it off with the come-a-long. I also have a dollie that we can put the press on so it can be rolled. At any rate I think we will be able to handle it. Let get it done! Can do it today if you like. (10/7/2009)
Response: Hey,
I am waiting on the seller to write me back with the exact dock height, he says it is about 6" lower than normal dock height.
He did say that his pallet jack is busted. He is going to have it up on 4x4's, and I will have it stretch wrapped, so if we can get your dollies under it then we should be able to load it that way, correct?
I was thinking of using the come along to slowly let it onto the trailer (as the front will be lower than the back) and to slowly let it off the trailer (when the front will be higher than the back), either way I don't this this will be a big problem.
As for timing, sorry I wasn't more clear in my listing, I put it as flexible so that shippers would know that I could work around their schedules, but I won't be ready to ship it until later next week. We could even do the weekend if you wanted to, for less traffic, your call!
Glenwood (10/7/2009)
Response: doesn't sound like it will be a problem. Will he have a ramp for the trailer? Don't forget it is only e12-14 in from the ground so if the dock is very high it will have to be raised quite a bit. Just let me know the date. I am flexable as long as I know in advance however we don't work sundays as we are a ministry based business. Thanks-jerome (10/7/2009)
Response: Jerome,
I heard back from the seller, the dock is 3' 6"
I did a quick calculation, if the trailer is a 12' trailer, with a 2' tounge, and the axle is in the center of the 12' trailer, and the bed is normally 12-14" off of the ground, then the wheels would need to be raised by 17" in order to bring the end of the bed level with the dock. I have some car ramps rated at 4,000lbs for the pair that are 6" high, and I can see putting another 6" under those with wood, but that would still leave the bed 9" lower than the dock at the end. Do you think ramping the trailer up onto 17" platforms is possible and or safe? That would put the bed of the trailer at 10 degrees, which means we would definitely need the come-along to slowly let the press into the trailer. Let me know what you think, I am just trying to be thorough about this because I want everyone involved to be safe. (10/9/2009)
Response: That sounds a bit too high and too much of an angle. It might not be for an open trailer, but for a closed one I think it too much of a stretch. As much as I hate to say so, maybe for safety reasons it might be better to have someone with a truck with a high bed. Maybe even a rental truck with a lift gate. Beter safe than sorry-Jerome. Are you sure they don't have a ramp they drive fork lifts to ground level? Most dock, and shipping centers must have one. (10/9/2009)
Response: Jerome, They definitely do not, I've been to the site and it is dock-only. Sorry things did not work out, but I will keep you in mind if I need anything else shipped from SC.
-Glenwood (10/9/2009)
Response: I noticed that you have made changes to the listing. Are you saying that it can be loaded from the ground level by fork lift? (10/10/2009)
Response: Sorry, not by fork lift, but by pallet jack. But yes, we can get it through the front of the building a load it at either ground level, or curb level, which should make getting it into the trailer easy, especially with a cable come-along.
I would prefer to do this Saturday the 19th or Monday the 20th, do either of these work for you?
Will you have a pallet jack available? I know you said you have a cable-come-along/winch, but I'm not positive that we clarified the pallet jack situation before.
I'd really prefer a mover like you to some of the LTL carriers that have bid, so I think this is how we could make this whole thing work. (10/10/2009)
Response: I don't have a pallet jack, but as we talked about before I do have rolling dollies(the kind I use for pianos). If the bottom of the equipment is solid or it is on a pallet or such I can put one or 2 under it. We should be able to roll it on and off at curb level. I guess the only issue then is getting it off the dollies in the end if there is no lift or jack at the unload point. I'm sure I could figure it out. The other thing is the date. I think you have the days incorrect. Saturday is 10/17 which is the only day I have open, unless you can do it Tuesday 10/13. (10/10/2009)
Response: You are correct I mixed up the days. Saturday the 17th of October is good for me, and I am trying to clear it with the item seller right now. If it does not work for him then I may have to rearrange my schedule so that the 13th will work.
I do have a pallet jack at the unload site, so the only real issue is loading. I think that between the dollies and the seller's partially working pallet jack we should be able to load it fine.
(10/10/2009)
Response: great! Nail down our date and I will repost my bid. I look forward to working with you.-Jerome (10/10/2009)
Response: Saturday is going to work, how do I book the bid?
THanks,
Glenwood (10/13/2009)
Response: reposting my bid now. Once you accept we can talk by phone.-Jerome (10/13/2009)